Interview with Marek Šuppa: insights into RoboCupJunior

A RoboCupJunior soccer match in motion.

In July this 12 months, 2500 contributors congregated in Bordeaux for RoboCup2023. The competitors includes a lot of leagues, and amongst them is RoboCupJunior, which is designed to introduce RoboCup to highschool kids, with the main focus being on schooling. There are three sub-leagues: Soccer, Rescue and OnStage.

Marek Šuppa serves on the Govt Committee for RoboCupJunior, and he advised us in regards to the competitors this 12 months and the most recent developments within the Soccer league.

What’s your position in RoboCupJunior and the way lengthy have you ever been concerned with this league?

I began with RoboCupJunior fairly some time in the past: my first worldwide competitors was in 2009 in Graz, the place I used to be fortunate sufficient to compete in Soccer for the primary time. Our crew didn’t do all that nicely in that occasion however RoboCup made a deep impression and so I stayed round: first as a competitor and later to assist organise the RoboCupJunior Soccer league. Proper now I’m serving as a part of the RoboCupJunior Execs who’re liable for the organisation of RoboCupJunior as an entire.

How was the occasion this 12 months? What had been a few of the highlights?

I suppose this 12 months’s theme or slogan, if we had been to offer it one, can be “again to regular”, or one thing like that. Though RoboCup 2022 already passed off in-person in Thailand final 12 months after two years of a pandemic pause, it was in a reasonably restricted capability, as COVID-19 nonetheless affected fairly a couple of areas. It was nice to see that the RoboCup neighborhood was capable of persevere and even thrive all through the pandemic, and that RoboCup 2023 was as soon as once more an occasion the place hundreds of robots and roboticists meet.

It could even be tough to do that query justice with out thanking the native French organisers. They had been truly able to organise the occasion in 2020 but it surely received cancelled attributable to COVID-19. However they didn’t quit on the thought and managed to place collectively an superior occasion this 12 months, for which we’re very grateful.

Examples of the robots utilized by the RoboCupJunior Soccer groups.

Turning to RoboCupJunior Soccer particularly, might you discuss in regards to the mission of the league and the way you, as organisers, go about realising that mission?

The mission of RoboCupJunior consists of two competing goals: on one hand, it must be a problem that’s approachable, attention-grabbing and related for (principally) highschool college students and on the similar time it must be intently associated to the RoboCup “Main” challenges, that are tackled by college college students and their mentors. We’re therefore repeatedly attempting to each make it extra compelling and fascinating for the scholars and on the similar time guarantee it’s technical sufficient to assist them develop in direction of the RoboCup “Main” challenges.

One of many methods we do that’s by introducing what we name “SuperTeam” challenges, through which groups from respective nations kind a so-called “SuperTeam” and compete towards one other “SuperTeam” as if these had been distinct groups. In RoboCupJunior Soccer the “SuperTeams” are composed of 4 to 5 groups and so they compete on a area that’s six instances bigger than the “customary” fields which might be used for the person video games. Whereas within the particular person matches every crew can play with two robots at most (leading to a 2v2 recreation) in a SuperTeam match every SuperTeam fields 5 robots, which means there are 10 robots that play on the SuperTeam area throughout a SuperTeam match. The setup is similar to the Division B of the Small Dimension League of RoboCup “Main”.

The SuperTeam video games have existed in RoboCupJunior Soccer since 2013, so for fairly some time, and the suggestions we acquired on them was overwhelmingly constructive: it was lots of enjoyable for each the contributors in addition to the spectators. However in comparison with the Small Dimension League video games there have been nonetheless two noticeable variations: the robots didn’t have a manner of speaking with each other and moreover, the referees didn’t have a manner of speaking with the robots. The consequence was that not solely was there little coordination amongst robots of the identical SuperTeam, every time the sport wanted to be stopped, the referees needed to bodily run after the robots on the sphere to catch them and do a kickoff after a purpose was scored. Though hilarious, it’s removed from how we might think about the SuperTeam video games to look.

The RoboCupJunior Soccer Normal Communication Modules goal to do each. The module itself is a small machine that’s connected to every robotic on the SuperTeam area. These gadgets are all linked through Bluetooth to a single smartphone, by way of which the referee can ship instructions to all robots on the sphere. The gadgets themselves additionally help direct message alternate between robots on a single SuperTeam, which means the groups don’t have to take a position into determining how one can talk with the opposite robots however could make use of a typical platform. The gadgets, in addition to their firmware, are open supply, which means not solely that everybody can construct their very own Normal Communication Module in the event that they’d like but additionally that the neighborhood can take part in its growth, which makes it an attention-grabbing addition to RoboCupJunior Soccer.

RoboCupJunior Soccer groups preparing for the competitors.

How did this new module work out within the competitors? Did you see an enchancment in expertise for the groups and organisers?

On this first massive public take a look at we centered on exploring how (and whether or not) these modules can enhance the gameplay – particularly the “chasing robots at kickoff”. Though we’ve executed “lab experiments” previously and had some empirical proof that it ought to work reasonably nicely, this was the primary time we tried it in an actual competitors.

All in all, I might say that it was a really constructive experiment. The modules themselves did work fairly nicely and for a few of us, who occurred to have expertise with “robotic chasing” talked about above, it was form of a magical feeling to see the robots cease proper on the principle referee’s whistle.

We additionally discovered potential areas for enchancment sooner or later. The modules themselves don’t have an influence supply of their very own and had been powered by the robots themselves. We didn’t assume this may be an issue however within the “actual world” take a look at it transpired that the voltage ranges the robots are able to offering fluctuates considerably – as an example when the robotic decides to aggressively speed up – which in flip means a few of the modules disconnect when the voltage is lowered considerably. Nevertheless, it ended up being a pleasant lesson for everybody concerned, one which we are able to definitely be taught from after we design the following iterations.

The livestream from Day 4 of RoboCupJunior Soccer 2023. This stream contains the SuperTeam finals and the technical challenges. It’s also possible to view the livestream of the semifinals and finals from day three right here.

May you inform us in regards to the emergence of deep-learning fashions within the RoboCupJunior leagues?

That is one thing we began to look at in recent times which shocked us organisers, to some extent. In our day-to-day jobs (that’s, when we aren’t organising RoboCup), many people, the organisers, work in areas associated to robotics, pc science, and engineering generally – with a few of us additionally doing analysis in synthetic intelligence and machine studying. And whereas we all the time thought that it might be nice to see extra of the cutting-edge analysis being utilized at RoboCupJunior, we all the time dismissed it as one thing too superior and/or tough to arrange for the highschool college students that comprise the vast majority of RoboCupJunior college students.

Nicely, to our nice shock, a few of the extra superior groups have began to utilise strategies and applied sciences which might be very near the present state-of-the-art in numerous areas, significantly pc imaginative and prescient and deep studying. instance can be object detectors (often based mostly on the YOLO structure), which at the moment are used throughout all three Junior leagues: in OnStage to detect numerous props, robots and people who carry out on the stage collectively, in Rescue to detect the victims the robots are rescuing and in Soccer to detect the ball, the objectives, and the opponents. And whereas the contributors typically used an off-the-shelf implementations, they nonetheless wanted to do all of the steps obligatory for a profitable deployment of this know-how: collect a dataset, finetune the deep-learning mannequin and deploy it on their robots – all of which is much from trivial and could be very near how these applied sciences get utilized in each analysis and trade.

Though we’ve seen solely the extra superior groups use deep-learning fashions at RoboCupJunior, we count on that sooner or later we are going to see it develop into rather more prevalent, particularly because the know-how and the tooling round it turns into extra mature and sturdy. It does present, nevertheless, that regardless of their age, the RoboCupJunior college students are very near cutting-edge analysis and state-of-the-art applied sciences.

Motion from RoboCupJunior Soccer 2023.

How can individuals get entangled in RCJ (both as a participant or an organiser?)

An excellent query!

The very best place to begin can be the RoboCupJunior web site the place one can discover many attention-grabbing particulars about RoboCupJunior, the respective leagues (comparable to Soccer, Rescue and OnStage), and the related regional representatives who organise regional occasions. Getting in contact with a regional consultant is by far the best manner of getting began with RoboCup Junior.

Moreover, I can definitely advocate the RoboCupJunior discussion board, the place many RoboCupJunior contributors, previous and current, in addition to the organisers, talk about many associated matters within the open. The neighborhood could be very newbie pleasant, so if RoboCupJunior sounds attention-grabbing, don’t hesitate to cease by and say hello!

About Marek Šuppa

Marek stumbled upon AI as a young person when constructing soccer-playing robots and shortly realised he’s not good sufficient to do all of the programming by himself. Since then, he’s been determining methods to make machines be taught by themselves, significantly from textual content and pictures. He at the moment serves because the Principal Information Scientist at Slido (a part of Cisco), enhancing the way in which conferences are run world wide. Staying true to his roots, he tries to offer others with an opportunity to have an identical expertise by organising the RoboCupJunior competitors as a part of the Govt Committee.